romney ryan. romney ryan. romney ryan. there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> john: now this prompted a rather public mocking from joe scarborough. but i think it was an example of governor romney being a little stiff and trying to do some crowd work which isn't his specialty. i thought the governor took a bad rap on that one. what do you think? >> in that case, when morning joe showed the clip of it, they heard people chanting but you couldn't really quite make out what they were chanting. but morning joe added a subtitle to indicate that the crowd had been chanting ryan's name. and that -- which made it look like romney came in and said add my name, too which makes him look a little bit desperate. i was actually there at that event as were you know, 30, 40, 50 other reporters. almost all of us heard that the crowd was chanting romney. and he was -- it is still awkward. he still seems a little awkward. but it makes him seem a little less desperate. i pointed that out on "buzzfeed." wrote an item pointing that out. as did some conservative blogs a